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Re:Flash cart question
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#50 on: Mar 18th a 02:08:30am » |
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Yeah, I saw those lines you added to my
program. I guess that makes sense ...
there's a lot more wires going to the cartridge
than going to the PC. So the
wire/solder/connection that is 'finicky' is
probably going to the cartridge.
When we
get a custom board made, I doubt any of that
will be necessary.
Nice to hear you got
my source to compile on your side. What
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Re:Flash cart question
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#51 on: Mar 18th a 12:00:09pm » |
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Posted by: CaitSith2 Posted on:
March 18th, 2002, 04:38:28 am
I got my cart
dumper to dump baseball simulator 1.000, and to
also dump other roms 100% correctly, 99.999% of
the time. (redundant byte read has to reproduce
the same incorrect byte second time to actually
make it through).
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Wow!
That's impressive!
How much did it cost you?
Your idea sounds much better. Neviksti's
circuit sounded too expensive and too
complicated for such a simple device. don't know
electtonics - too many parts. don't know
programming - what's the point of using a whole
CPU for something so simple? ... I don't know
how to program that!
So I'd be very
interested in your design. Especially
since you actually built one ... and it works!
Neviksti should stop talking out his butt ;p
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Re:Flash cart question
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#52 on: Mar 18th a 12:01:01pm » |
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AVR assembler 1.30 from atmel.com
Yeah,
it might be the extra massive wiring to the
cartridge that produces the
errors.
anyways, when we do make the
custom board, we will try to comment out the
code, and see if it works ok. If not, we
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Re:Flash cart question
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#53 on: Mar 18th a 12:09:47pm » |
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CaitSith2 - ummm, did you miss my message?
The ROM dumper sounds good. Could you also add
in SRAM dumping and modifying like Neviksti was
claiming?
I'd really like to know your
design to get one myself. Thanks.
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Re:Flash cart question
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#54 on: Mar 18th a 12:36:17pm » |
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actually, neviksti designed it, and I used his
design, with that cpu and that stuff.
no
worries, neviksti wrote the CPU code and all of
that stuff. he's also planning to do a
custom PCB for it, to make building it easier,
and more reliable.
The cart dumper is
able to dump SRAM, dump ROM, and load SRAM to
cart.
later on, when I build a flash
cart, my dumper will be able to program the
flash cart. |
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Re:Flash cart question
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#55 on: Mar 18th a 12:58:29pm » |
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Posted by: CaitSith2 Posted on:
March 18th, 2002, 03:36:17 pm
actually,
neviksti designed it, and I used his design,
with that cpu and that
stuff.
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What?
Hearing him rattle on about hardware
this/hardware that ... and yet giving us no
proof he actually did anything, I think he's
just a lamer that pretends to know what he was
talking about.
I don't believe it for a
second. I bet he lifted the design and
program off the web and claimed it as his
own.
If he's so high and mighty, with his
name all over the dev board, and talking all
technical like ... how come he's added a total
of ZERO lines to zsnes. And another
example ... look how far all his talking of the
SDD1 got ... any results? No.
Nada.
What a moron, and you for beleiving
him. Forget your design, I'll go search
for it on the internet myself ... like I'm sure
he did. |
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Re:Flash cart question
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#56 on: Mar 18th a 01:22:01pm » |
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I bilieve neviksti and we need more people like
him on the board. Have you thought that he might
have an own life? Shall he do the SDD1
decryption himself?
He just wants to help
and is one of the kindest people on the board so
think about what you are saying. If you accuse
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Re:Flash cart question
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Posted by: Player1 Posted on:
March 18th, 2002, 04:22:01 pm
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He just
wants to help and is one of the kindest people
on the board...
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Now you're
full of it. I backed up my thoughts with
reasons. Have you?
Why does
everyone defend Neviksti? I bet know one
understands his technobabble because its a bunch
of phony blathering, but no one's willing to
admit it because they're afraid they'll look
stupid. Well guess what ... I'll be the
first to admit the emperor's wearing no
clothes. There, the secrets out of the bag
... he's a know-nothing-boastfull-lamer.
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Re:Flash cart question
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#58 on: Mar 18th a 09:32:52pm » |
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Haha... I got to admit, that's an interesting
allusion to "The Emperor's New Clothes".
It very nicely illustrates what you were trying
to say.
After writings such as that, I
myself am baffled at why someone, who evidently
has a good intelligent head on their shoulders
in some respects, can think so irrationally in
other aspects.
I do try to be nice to
everyone, by helping out people that have
technical questions, by running experiments for
them, or by designing hardware/programming
software that may be useful to some. It is
because I try to be helpful to everyone that I
am offended by your remarks. I do not
believe I know you, so I can not imagine why you
would attack me with such accusations.
I
don't do all these things just because it helps
people out, but because I enjoy working on
them... otherwise I wouldn't have stayed up late
one night to get that Cart Reader/Writer working
for CaitSith. And yes that really is my
design and program. I'm sure he can vouch
for me as he's seen it evolve over
time.
And yes, I did built my own Flash
programmer and Flash cartridge. I guess I
can't really prove to you that I made it, but I
have used it several times to run tests for
Pagefault, Trac, and anomie. No I haven't
written code for zsnes myself ... but the result
of several of these tests have been used by
Pagefault, Demo, and anomie to fix some emulator
bugs.
All that "technobabble" you keep
referring to... well, you said yourself you
don't understand electronics or programming, so
you will just have to take my word (or the word
of others) that we are having real
conversations.
I admit that the
"test cartridge" thread probably doesn't mean
much to anyone except anomie and me (because it
requires understanding his tests which I doubt
many bother reading), but I'm fairly confident
that the majority of people who frequent the dev
board understand what is being discussed ... as
shown by the conversations we've had in the
S-DD1 thread.
kurtgrams:
>... Why
does everyone defend Neviksti? ...
I may
not be all "so high and mighty" as you put it,
but I believe the reason you see people directly
addressing me on the dev board and some even
defending me here is because I've proven myself
/ my knowledge and have earned some respect
here.
I would appreciate the same respect
from you.
Please refrain from the false
accusations, and this will be
dropped.
Thank you.
P.S. I'm
still amazed. Has anyone _ever_ seen an
allusion in a flame before? Hahaha... just
amazing. |
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Re:Flash cart question
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#59 on: Mar 18th a 11:11:29pm » |
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Sorry guys about the disturbance on this topic,
but, what the hell!
People flaming
Pagefault for ZSNES delay... People accusing
Neviksti... This people come and go all the
time.
If Kurtgrams ever dare of (I
doubt, since he is not an assembler guy) getting
the ASM code to look at, he could see that is no
joke.
Neviksti is, in a Lovecraftian way
to say, a Great Old One. People respect and even
defend him because of... duh, never mind. You're
not willing to understand, anyway. 
Please let
them do their work and don't start babbling
around if you are not in conditions of
proving your reason.
About being rude,
sorry, but sometimes we have to. |
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Re:Flash cart question
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#60 on: Mar 19th a 03:01:18am » |
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No luck on getting the SPC7110 to let up on the
remaining 3 MBs of rom, that are not accessable
without it. |
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Re:Flash cart question
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#61 on: Mar 19th a 11:28:37am » |
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from: kurtgrams on Mar 18th a
12:58:29pm
What? Hearing him
rattle on about hardware this/hardware that ...
and yet giving us no proof he actually did
anything, I think he's just a lamer that
pretends to know what he was talking
about.
I don't believe it for a
second. I bet he lifted the design and
program off the web and claimed it as his
own.
If he's so high and mighty, with his
name all over the dev board, and talking all
technical like ... how come he's added a total
of ZERO lines to zsnes. And another
example ... look how far all his talking of the
SDD1 got ... any results? No.
Nada.
What a moron, and you for beleiving
him. Forget your design, I'll go search
for it on the internet myself ... like I'm sure
he
did.
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Just
because you don't know SH*T and you talk out
your A*S doesn't give you the right to badmouth
your betters on this board. You obviously
don't know what you're talking about and instead
of letting the people that do work toward new
and better knowlege and implementation you try
to poison their ideas and drive them out.
I hope you don't succeed in your petty
quest. I don't run this board but if I did
you'd be on short notice for a long
boot.
I'll make it simple so even you can
understand it:
Neviksti knows what he's
talking about. You don't. Shut
up.
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Re:Flash cart question
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#62 on: Mar 19th a 12:44:23pm » |
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kurtgrams, you are truly an idiot. While
Neviksti has shown himself to be one of the more
intelligent users on this message board, you've
done nothing but throw around ridiculous
accusations that are, at best, laughable. You
should be thankful that Neviksti even bothered
to dignify your posts with a response...
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Re:Flash cart question
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#63 on: Mar 19th a 01:22:22pm » |
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To kurtgrams:
I have been reading this
message board for nearly a year, and have even
been a moderator. And it is people like
you who have no clue whatsoever that make people
who work on things like zsnes consider quitting
these projects. It is unnecessary and
uncalled for. Do you enjoy zsnes? If
you do, then you should appreciate the work of
people like neviksti who, although they don't
actually code zsnes, do experiments that help
break the barriers of emulation. Now, I'll
be the first to admit that I have no idea what
is being said in much of this forum, but I
reallize that the info said here is invaluable
for the development of zsnes. If you don't
have anything constructive to say here, then get
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Re:Flash cart question
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#64 on: Mar 20th a 09:20:31am » |
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Oh nice, my flash cart programmer decided to
start giving me errors.
I pretty well
diagnosed the error to be one of 2 possible
things
1. (unconfirmed) wiring to
cartridge connection is bad.
2.
(unconfirmed (and hope it is not true)) atmel
chip is failing. (programming mode does
verify the rom correctly, so that isn't the
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Re:Flash cart question
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#65 on: Mar 20th a 10:43:29am » |
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>Oh nice, my flash cart programmer decided to
start
>giving me errors.
Ha!
I'll believe that neviksti designed it
now.
And since you all love him so much,
how about if I write like him? Then maybe
you'll
listen.
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Before
more arguing ensues from what has been said ...
let's all step back and think through this
logically.
KurtGrams is most likely an
intelligent guy, as Neviksti himself stated
earlier. However some points he made
incited anger in the crowd. So let's start
with a clean slate and work through his
arguements and the counter
arguments:
Kurtgrams says: neviksti is
overrated - because:
People's
opinions:
[1] his name is/was all over the
dev board
[2] people even wanted to add his
name to the about box in zsnes itself
[3]
people believe he is a large source of nintendo
information
Neviksti's facts:
[1] he
has written no code for zsnes
[2] anomie
wrote majority (if not all of this version) of
the test cart himself ... not neviksti
[3]
neviksti deduces that other people's S-DD1 ideas
are wrong, yet his ideas have produce no visible
progress
[4] his cart dumper doesn't
work
[5] many times he talks in a language
few (if any) can understand
the counter
arguements -
almost all opinions ... here
they are
(summarized):
Player1:
neviksti is
nice ... leave him alone
Keeper!:
kurt
grams should shut up ...
"People respect and
even defend him because of... duh, never mind.
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TheDumper:
no examples, but ...
kurtgrams is poison, shut up
"Neviksti knows
what he's talking about. You don't.
Shut up."
Negative Zero:
kurtgrams is
idiot
he throws around ridiculous
accusations
Evan G:
I have no idea
what he's saying myself ... but I have blind
faith in him anyway.
My comments to
their rebutal. Get real! You don't
even supply real arguements. The only
person I agree with is NegativeZero ... I made
an accusation that Neviksti didn't design the
dumper. Since it doesn't work, I must have
been crazy to think he didn't.
Please
notice you all defend him with nonsense and with
unfounded remarks about me... while my remarks
are based on fact. You obviously believe I
go to far. So at least think it out and I
believe you'll come to at least the middle
ground.... Neviksti is overrated. People
don't understand him, so they think he's
amazing.
Past the middle ground is
me. I believe this not only happens, but
that he does it on
purpose.
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There,
I tried to write persuasive like he does ...
it works so amazing for him, so maybe it
will at least jar your think heads. I hope
this will break the spell and allow you people
to look around. You all believe him
blindly ...
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Re:Flash cart question
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#66 on: Mar 20th a 10:45:53am » |
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Oh yeah, BTW, to make up for the false
accusation (that he didn't design dumper) I gave
him one Karma point ... enjoy ;P |
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Re:Flash cart question
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#67 on: Mar 20th a 11:26:52am » |
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>Neviksti's facts:
>[4] his cart dumper
doesn't work
Actually, it does work, its
just the errors are a result of a bad wire in
the cart dumper I built. If it were not
for this one bad wire, the cart dumper would
continue to work.
I plan on moving the
design over to a custom made PCB, which will
eliminate 99% of the wires in the design,
thereby increasing the robustness of the cart
dumper.
basically, that bad wire only
started taking a toll on my cart dumper last
night, starting out as atmel timing out at
certain addresses, (redundancy check kept
failing, and therefore no bytes were being sent
back to the computer). soon enough, the
bad wire was just making all dumps appear with
bad checksums, (if atmel did not time
out)
this will be fixed with the custom
PCB. (wires do go bad when they are bent back
and fourth enough, (especially thin wire wrap
wire)
>[2] anomie wrote majority (if
not all of this version) of the test cart
himself ... not neviksti
Actually, from
the beginning point, neviksti had anomie write
pseudocode for the first several test carts, and
neviksti turned it into actual snes
code.
neviksti also ran the test cart on
his snes (using his dumper / programmer design)
and reported results back to anomie.
anomie then used the information to
revise the tests, and to improve
snes9x.
>[1] he has written no code
for zsnes
Now, while that is true, he has
contributed info that ended up as lines of code
in zsnes. (he found out that KEY ON does not
reset the corosponding KEY OFF bit to
0)
there is other info he contributed.
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